Assistance with Excited State Calculations Using FERWE and FERDO Tags in VASP

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Assistance with Excited State Calculations Using FERWE and FERDO Tags in VASP

#1 Post by priyanka_mishra » Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:40 am

Dear VASP Team,

I am currently working on excited state calculations in VASP. Specifically, I am attempting to excite an electron from the ground state (GS) to the excited state (ES) using the FERWE and FERDO tags. However, I am encountering difficulties.

While my calculations run without errors, the expected electron excitation does not occur. Upon examining the OUTCAR file, I notice that the number of electrons in the conduction band remains unchanged from the ground state. It seems that the excitation I am trying to enforce is not being reflected in the results.
To achieve this, I considered the following settings for the FERWE and FERDO tags:

FERWE = [O_UP-1]*1.0 1*0.0 1*1.0 [U_UP-1]*0.0 <repeated N_K times>
FERDO = [O_DN]*1.0 [U_DN]*0.0 <repeated N_K times>
Here, O_UP and O_DN represent the number of occupied spin-up and spin-down states, while U_UP and U_DN represent the unoccupied spin-up and spin-down states. Despite using these settings, the excitation does not seem to occur.

To resolve this issue, I would like to gain a deeper understanding of the proper usage of VASP for excited state calculations. Specifically:

How should the FERWE and FERDO tags be used to enforce electron excitation?
Are there common pitfalls or additional parameters I should consider when attempting such calculations?

regards,
Priyanka


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Re: Assistance with Excited State Calculations Using FERWE and FERDO Tags in VASP

#2 Post by andreas.singraber » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:18 pm

Dear Priyanka,

welcome to the VASP forum! Could you please upload all required input files necessary to reproduce the issue with excited states you observed. Also, please add all relevant output files, have a look at the forum posting guidelines (follow the link to the minimal reproducible example description).

Thank you!

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Andreas Singraber


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Re: Assistance with Excited State Calculations Using FERWE and FERDO Tags in VASP

#3 Post by priyanka_mishra » Fri Dec 20, 2024 8:42 pm

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Re: Assistance with Excited State Calculations Using FERWE and FERDO Tags in VASP

#4 Post by xin_zhao » Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:21 am

According to the VASP wiki, the FERWE and FERDO tags are effective only when ISMEAR=-2 and ISPIN=2. Additionally, a WAVECAR file must also be provided.

The following website maybe helpful for you.
wiki/index.php/ISMEAR
https://wiki.kfki.hu/nano/Easy_manual_o ... _and_FERDO


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Re: Assistance with Excited State Calculations Using FERWE and FERDO Tags in VASP

#5 Post by priyanka_mishra » Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:37 am

Yes, I tried using ISMEAR = -2 and ISPIN = 2 as per the given link, but I faced some problems with the calculations. Additionally, I didn’t observe any signs of electron excitation, so I decided to set ISMEAR to 0 instead.Thank you


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